The “Spiritual Law” is eternal, this is the law that condemned Satan of covetousness and prefaced his extrication from the Kingdom. This same Spiritual Law judged the Adamic and Noahic generations of compromise with the demonic where the Earth was judged by water.
The “Spiritual Law” is the law Elohim infused within the heart of human kind on Day-6 as human kind is created in the spiritual image of Elohim thereby possessing certain divine communicable attributes of Elohim concerning a sustainable society and judgment with due process.
Torah Law – the Code of Hammurabi are but mere fragments of the divine Spiritual Law having been codified for specific reasons.
It is the same Spiritual Law that is employed by the Holy Spirit in the New Covenant to arbitrate the redeemed conscience of the Christian and point them toward righteous behavior via the production of divine fruit (Galatians 5:16-23; John 15:8).
Concerning those redeemed by faith in Jesus as their Messiah,
Reading Scripture with intent is like programming a computer’s hard drive…what you’re inputting into your mind and heart can be accessed by the indwelling Holy Spirit for use at the proper time, maybe many years down the road…but the information is stored and He is faithful to draw upon it when you need it. Reading the Scriptures, even if you don’t understand same at that time…is invaluable. Neglecting the Scriptures is like an operating system void information, it’s useless.
Sin is defined by the spiritual law (Romans 2:14-15) that has been extant within human kind subsequent Day-6 and the spiritual law is the very same law that judged Satan of covetousness and under girded his extrication from the Kingdom. The spiritual law judged both the Adamic and Noahic generations of defilement and judgement in water LONG before Sinai and Moses.
Torah’s laws, Moses’ laws, are but a mere fraction of the comprehensive spiritual law that will be used to judge the unredeemed and that same law will be extant in the New Jerusalem as free will remains extant there as well; this, by necessity.
Torah will find relevance in the Millennial Kingdom as Jesus will receive the Kingdom denied Him at His First-Advent and a partial return to Law will manifest there as the Age of Grace will have concluded subsequent the “fullness of the Gentiles” having entered the Kingdom (Romans 11:25).
During this current “Age of Grace”…the New Covenant, as established in the blood of Messiah (Matthew 26:27-29), Torah is not in effect (Romans 6:14) but the redeemed in Jesus are under grace and their obedience is through the indwelling Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14; Romans 7:6) whereby the Spirit produces divine fruit (Galatians 5:16-23) through the redeemed and this fruit fulfills all law; both codified and spiritual (Galatians 5:23) and this fruit actually pleases the Father and proves one to be a disciple of Jesus (John 15:8).
Topic of discussion: It is a distortion of the gospel to emphasize God’s grace heavily while ignoring the need for repentance.
True, actuated, “repentance” is not possible without grace and a relationship with the Father through faith in Jesus as Messiah, why? For one to truly repent and produce divine fruit (Galatians 5:16-23) that validates true repentance, one must possess the indwelling Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14) and allow His anointing to work in their life through obedience via daily Christian sanctification; therefore, one can and should profess a “desire” to repent in conjunction with their statement of faith in Jesus as Messiah, but true, actuated, faith validating, repentance will ONLY manifest subsequent salvation; this, through the production of divine fruit (Galatians 5:16-23) and this fruit fulfills all law (Galatians 5:23); this fruit actually pleases the Father and proves one to be a disciple of Jesus (John 15:8).
Our entire Creation is the resultant of a war initiated by a rebellious cherub in the Kingdom before Time began (Revelation 12; Ezekiel 28:11-15). This temporary Earth is a temporary repository for that Kingdom War as Elohim restores peace and order to the Heavenly Kingdom within the Spiritual Realm.
This is why the first main character introduced subsequent the creation of human kind is Satan (Genesis 3) and this is why a formal declaration of war between Satan and Messiah is proclaimed in Genesis 3:15 and this is why the battle strategy by which Messiah would defeat the works of Satan (death, Hell, the grave) is proclaimed in Genesis 3:21 via the shedding of innocent blood to provide human kind a gifted, imputed, robe of righteousness/covering for sin known as the Gospel of Jesus.
Messiah Jesus fulfilled these prophecies 4000-years later at Golgotha through the shedding of His innocent blood; in fact, the primary reason Messiah entered Time was “to destroy the works of Satan” (1 John 3:8b) via a Gospel that was ordained “before Time began” (2 Timothy 1:8-9).
You were born into this WAR for a purpose and you possess the free will to chose servitude to Jesus as His warrior for good or you can choose Satan as his warrior for evil…not choosing sides is siding with Satan. I sense your anger and hostility toward Christianity…please don’t the fool of Satan and die in Hell in rebellion to our Creator’s will for your life (John 6:29).
Can a Christian follow Yeshua while ignoring the Torah?
If I never heard of Torah, as a Christian, my walk with my LORD would be unimpeded concerning the veracity/security of my salvation and New Covenant promise (Hebrews 8:12); with that said, the Torah provides the Christian invaluable historical and eschatological information concerning the who, what, where, when, why, how, of Elohim’s eschatological plan for Time and humanity, including the essential foundations of faith; therefore, it’s not that a Christian “follows” Torah and it’s rules, regulations, traditions, but that the Christian’s spiritual walk would be incomplete without Torah; therefore, a Christian’s fullness of joy and understanding would be lacking due the plethora of theological knowledge that would be absent void a study of Torah, theological truths that the Holy Spirit would not be able draw upon as tools to arbitrate the redeemed conscience/provide instruction; this, as the Holy Spirit walks the redeemed Christian in daily sanctification in preparation for service in the New Jerusalem.
Theological question: How can we recognize false teaching today? Justify, please.
You won’t automatically recognize “false teaching” lest the Holy Spirit indwells you (Ephesians 1:13-14; John 14:16) and He, the indwelling Holy Spirit, discerns for you the words of deceit; therefore, unless you are born again by faith in Jesus as your Messiah, you have no realistic hope of discerning what is true and what is false with consistency.
In order for the Spirit to guide you in Truth, you must first take the initiative to input that Truth into your mind and your spirit through reading, study, reciting, listening, to the Scriptures and this allows the Spirit to bring to your memory, to the forefront of cognition, what our LORD has said, its context, its relevance in your life (2 Timothy 2:15).
Much like a modern day computer’s hard drive and stored data; lest you input the data of Scripture, the Holy Spirit has nothing from which to draw upon and provide you insight and discernment.
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Actually, the Torah is but a mere fragment of the comprehensive spiritual law (Romans 2:14-15), the spiritual law having been infused within human kind on Day-6 as a bulwark against unrestrained narcissism as the spiritual law is arbitrated by the human conscience. It is that same spiritual law that judged Satan of covetousness before the creation of Time and that same law judged the Adamic and Noahic generations of defilement with the demonic resulting in the extinction of all mankind save eight.
When Elohim speaks of writing His laws on the heart of mankind, He speaks of the New Covenant where the indwelling Holy Spirit, given to all who trust in Messiah Jesus as Savior; these who have trusted, believed in Jesus are granted the Gift of the Spirit to dwell within them (Ephesians 1:13-14) and it is the indwelling Holy Spirit who becomes the Arbiter of the redeemed, enlivened, conscience, the new man (2 Corinthians 5:17), and the Spirit walks the new man and new woman in daily sanctification producing divine fruit through them that fulfills all law (Galatians 5:23); both, codified and spiritual, and this divine fruit (Galatians 5:16-23) actually pleases the Father and proves one to be a disciple of Jesus (John 15:8).
If Torah were written upon the heart void the presence of the indwelling Holy Spirit to Arbitrate the redeemed conscience, Torah would be as impotent concerning righteousness with the Father as it was in the Old Covenant (Romans 8 ).
Hebrew Roots asked: “Why are those seeking to follow God’s laws called Judaizers?”
It’s theologically acceptable and a beautiful endeavor to seek to honor Elohim’s laws as long as that “attempt” to obey Torah does not convolute the purity of faith, alone, in Jesus, alone. Problem is; concerning Hebrew Roots and many Messianic Judaism parishioners, they place one foot in Torah Law and one foot in the New Covenant and this perversion of Elohim’s will concerning the sufficiency of the Son to redeemed apart from works results in death in Hell for the compromised.
If you’re a Hebrew Roots or Messianic Christian, your salvation and your walk in the Spirit is rooted solely in faith in Jesus, alone. Your works, your efforts at obedience to days, letters, diets, traditions, feasts, play ZERO role in your salvation…as salvation is by grace (unmerited favor apart from human input or works) through faith, trusting, believing, in Jesus as Messiah…this is the KEY to unlocking the door to salvation.
If you seek to enter New Covenant relationship with the Father through faith in Jesus and add water baptism or Torah Law obedience or speaking in tongues or church attendance or Mass participation or receiving the Sacraments or paying your indulgences or praying the rosary or seeking to venerate Mary or walking door-to-door spreading the doctrines of your particular religion…you have nullified the sufficiency of Jesus’ blood to atone for your sin by faith, alone…you are a Judaizer…you are a CULT…you are a deceiver of Truth concerning the Gospel (Romans 4:4-5).
Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
Islamist inquiry: My question is, Why Jesus himself can not do this but ask you humans to do so? No deflection.
If one understands causation for the Genesis creation narrative, they acknowledge the truism that WAR is the reason for our existence in this temporary realm of Time and the primary focus of Jesus having entered Time was to complete the declaration of war proclaimed in Genesis 3:15 via the battle strategy, the Gospel, first pictured in Genesis 3:21; in fact, the primary reason Jesus entered the temporary Realm of Time was “to destroy the works of Satan” (1 John 3:8b).
An overwhelming majority of human kind is blind, blatantly ignorant, to the war that rages around them and through them via the Spiritual Realm. The Old Testament of Scripture graphically articulates the horrors of this Spiritual War having manifest partially within the physical Realm of Time…what you see and what horrifies some readers of Scripture is the DEATH and suffering that extends across the pages of Torah. This horror and suffering is expected when one knows and understand the battle before us.
Islam and Satan,
What I find rather comical is the fact that the Muslim, the Islamist, will take portions of the Old Testament documentation of this Spiritual War and attempt to blaspheme or disparage Elohim the Father, Elohim the Son, Elohim the Holy Spirit, for their tactics against our enemy, Satan, and his demons, when it is the Islamist that serves our enemy, Satan, who is Allah masquerading as an angel of light via the Arabic moon god and it is the Islamist that is Satan’s warriors within the Realm of Time. The false prophet Muhammad being a 7th-Century nomadic, demon possessed, child rapist, murdering, thief, who plagiarized the Torah to construct the Quran, Satan’s book of demonically rooted battle strategies.
Soon, Satan via Islam/Iran-Russia-China will come against Jerusalem, Israel in a limited nuclear war (the Book of Revelation) and this will trigger Messiah’s 2nd-Advent to Mount Olivette and the initiation of the Millennial Kingdom…this is simply a continuation of the spiritual war prophesied in Genesis 3:15 involving Satan v. Jesus…nothing new here…simply Elohim’s battle strategy to right the wrong initiated by an anointed cherub in the Kingdom of Elohim before the foundation of the World (Luke 10:18; Revelation 13:8; Revelation 12:3-9).
