Atheist mocks the Scriptures in a misunderstanding of Truth…

Atheist premise: “Can something come from nothing? This is a common question that creationists come up with their typical “grasping at straws” tactic in trying to explain such an untenable belief. The fact is that an informed atheist would never make an assertion such as “something comes from nothing” in the first place. Quite simply, Nobody knows how “something” came to be or whether the universe physically exists. But this is where creationists are only too willing to make an assertion from an assumption, i.e. that something comes from something.”

Christian response…

The Scriptures, the Holy Spirit, do NOT say that matter forming our Universe descending down to the complex human genome was created ex nihilo (out of nothing). The Holy Spirit explains that as a result of a rebellion, an attempted coup d’état, manifesting in the Spiritual Realm being so destructive that the scenario mandated removal from the Kingdom to prevent further destruction; therefore, God the Father commissioned God the Son, Jesus Christ-Yeshua, to take elements from the Spiritual World and fashion those elements into matter that can be apprehended by life constrained by Time and physics.

“The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.”  John 3:35 (NASB)

“By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.”  Hebrews 11:3 (NASB)

Speaking of Jesus as Creator, the Holy Spirit says…

“The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.  Colossians 1:15-20 (NASB)

The Holy Spirit explains Jesus as Creator in the Gospels as well…

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.” John 1:1-5 (NASB)

“14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John *testified about Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.’” 16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”  John 1:14-18 (NASB)

The Holy Spirit tells us that God’s Plan to defeat Lucifer/Satan via the Gospel of Jesus Christ was ordained and put into motion “before the beginning of Time.”

“Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God, 9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, 10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,”  2 Timothy 1:8-10 (NKJV)

Reasoning for Creation…

The entire purpose, causation, reasoning, for the creation of Time, matter, the Universe, Earth, mankind, was to deal specifically with Lucifer’s rebellion in the Kingdom of God and the angels that followed Lucifer in that rebellion. The Holy Spirit tells us that the Son of God appeared in Time to defeat the works of Lucifer…

“The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.”  1 John 3:8b (NASB)

If not for the rebellion of Lucifer, God’s chief cherub angel, Time, mankind, the Universe would have never been created. God the Father is currently demonstrating to the faithful angles in the Kingdom why sin is so destructive and why Lucifer, the rebellious angels were extricated from the Kingdom and why they must be confined in Hell forever. God the Father has infused free will in both His angelic and human creation…free will is essential for relationship and love with the Father to exist in purity and authenticity. God the Father, desiring to maintain volitional love with the faithful angles remaining in the Kingdom, is demonstrating why Lucifer/Satan must be punished. Subsequent to thousands-of-years (Earth time) and observing the horrors of Lucifer’s deception upon the Earth, at the end of Messiah’s Millennial Kingdom at the time of the Judgment of the Condemned (Revelation 20:11-15), the faithful angles in the Kingdom will wholeheartedly agree with God the Father that Satan and the fallen angels do deserve punishment in Hell forever (Revelation 20:10).

Jesus said that He personally observed the extrication of Lucifer/Satan from the Kingdom…

Jesus said to them, “I watched Satan fall from heaven like lightning.”  Luke 10:18

There is an unfathomable struggle, a cosmic war, being played-out before our eyes, partially in the Spiritual Realm and partially in the Realm of Time…Jesus told us that His Kingdom is NOT from the Realm of Time…

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.”  John 18:36 (NASB)

If one knows the indwelling Holy Spirit, they can observe the struggle between Jesus-Israel-Christianity v. Allah-Islam as this struggle will continue to manifest in the approaching Apocalypse, a nuclear war that will be initiated by Allah and his allies, Russia-China-Iran-Arab Coalition who will attack Jerusalem, Israel. This will initiate the Millennial Kingdom of Yeshua-Jesus. Unbeknownst to most, Allah of Islam is actually Satan manifest in Time through the Arabic moon god; Allah finds legitimacy in Time and worship and praise by touting Islam’s relationship with Abraham via Abraham’s adulterous affair with Hagar which gave birth to Ishmael, the father of the Ishmaelites, the forefathers of the Arabic tribes, the forefathers of Muhammad, the founder of Islam.

In closing…

The Scriptures do not teach creation ex nihilo but that our creation finds its origin in the Spiritual World and this is why God the Holy Spirit has said that mankind, cognitively constrained by Time-physics and our sin-nature/the Curse, will never define origin.

“He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.”  Ecclesiastes 3:11 (NASB)

Beware of the Judaizers – the False Teachers who inundate the “Extreme Biblical Discussion” Forum on Facebook!

An explanation…

Prowling this discussion forum is a cultic heresy from the first-Century that denies the deity and sufficiency of Jesus Christ-Yeshua as God, Lord, Creator, Messiah, Intercessor, Judge.

These cultists are Judaizers, obsessed and deceived by a philosophy, ideology, theology, that is no different than that of the first-Century Jews who denied the Deity of Christ and advocated for His murder at the hands of the Jewish Council and Roman leadership.

These false teachers preach a theology that is no different than…

1) The Mormon cult that denies the sufficiency of Jesus Christ and mandates allegiance to Joseph Smith.

2) The cult of the Jehovah’s Witnesses who deny the deity of Jesus Christ and equate Him as the spirit brother of Lucifer.

3) The Roman Catholic Church that denies the sufficiency of Jesus Christ’s death as a one-time, for all time, propitiation/pardon from death in sin and Hell by grace through faith.

4) Islam which denies the deity of Jesus Christ as Lord and Messiah.

Christianity believes what the Scriptures/the Holy Spirit has said about Jesus as God. Christians understand that Jesus is the Divider of Time and Eternity; Jesus is the division of history and Jesus is the central/all-encompassing figure of the Holy Scriptures beginning in the Genesis and extending through the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John the Apostle on the Island of Patmos in 90AD.

Christians understand that if Jesus was not God, Jesus could not be sinless and therefore Jesus could NOT intercede on behalf of mankind and provide a pardon from death in sin and Hell (2 Corinthians 5:21;John 14:6; Philippians 2:8). If Jesus was not God, all of mankind is lost and headed to death in Hell because God the Father is NOT going to allow the impurity, the unrepentant sin, of mankind to enter His Kingdom subsequent to the death of the body in Time (Revelation 21:27).

These false teachers who inundate this Forum have denied the only Way, the only Truth, to find Life in Eternity through the forgiveness of sin i.e. Jesus Christ as our personal God, Mediator for sin and provider of the indwelling Holy Spirit, our Tutor in sanctification (John 14:6; Ephesians 1:13; 1 John 2:27; John 3:1-21). Jesus has clearly warned these false teachers that unless they repent of their sins and believe in their heart that He is “I AM” … Jesus has told them and you and me that unless we believe He is “I AM that I AM” (Exodus 3:14) we will die in our sins (John 8:24; John 14:6).

The Scriptures are replete with the truism that Jesus is God who entered Time to defeat the works of Satan and redeem mankind back to God the Father through the mediation of our sin by paying for that sin with His own sinless blood (1 John 3:8; John 3:16; 2 Corinthians 5:21).

Unfortunately, the false teachers who roam this forum are an antichrist, a deceiver, a servant of Satan (even if unaware) and anyone who follows these heretics’ rejection of the Scriptures and denies the deity of Jesus Christ as Lord for the mediation of their sin, they will not see life in God’s Kingdom (John 3:35).

Rickey D. Holtsclaw

Atheist confused concerning the necessity of the virgin birth of Messiah-Jesus. An explanation…

The first prophecy concerning Messiah’s birth via the seed of the woman is Genesis 3:14-15. Messiah’s virgin birth was a necessity due to Adam’s culpability for the Curse resulting in a corrupted genome, a sin-nature, death of the body and spiritual death…a chasm created between mankind and God due to rebellion and disobedience.

So the Lord God said to the serpent:

“Because you have done this,

You are cursed more than all cattle,

And more than every beast of the field;

On your belly you shall go,

And you shall eat dust

All the days of your life.

15 And I will put enmity

Between you and the woman,

And between your seed and her Seed;

He shall bruise your head,

And you shall bruise His heel.” Genesis 3:14-15 (NKJV)

If you remember, when Eve succumbed to the enticement of Lucifer in Eden, nothing happened. Elohim took no affirmative action concerning judgment or wrath. Not until Adam compromised with Eve and rejected God Covenant of Provision that hinged upon not compromising with evil did Elohim search-out Adam and subsequently pronounce The Curse for disobedience (Genesis 3:17-19).

It is Adam that bears the greater culpability for The Fall seeing that Adam received the edict from Elohim to NOT compromise with evil DIRECTLY from the mouth of God. Eve, on the other hand, received the edict by hearsay from her husband; therefore, death, the curse, the chasm, is passed from the seed of the man.

Jesus entered Time through the womb of the woman (Galatians 4:4) in order to circumvent the sin-nature, the corruption, that passes from our first father, Adam (Romans 5:12; 1 Corinthians 15:22). Jesus was born in the flesh fully man and fully God (Philippians 2:8) and this Plan, the Gospel, finds its origin “before the beginning of Time” (2 Timothy 1:10; 1 Peter 1:20).

Jesus was born into the World, born to a “woman,” born under The Law (Galatians 4:4) and Jesus lived a perfect sinless life and fulfilled The Law for us (Matthew 5:17-20) as Jesus was the only One capable of fulfilling the law and meeting the righteous standards of perfection required by God the Father (2 Corinthians 5:21); otherwise, Jesus could not have died as the propitiation/sin-bearer for the sins of mankind (John 3:16).

If Jesus was not born of a virgin, He could not be God because He would be tainted with a sin-nature and Jesus would not have been able to fulfill the righteous requirements of the Law and we would all be dead in our sin and headed to a hopeless death in Hell subsequent to Judgment (Romans 5:8).

Rickey D. Holtsclaw