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Can observance/obedience to Torah satiate God’s wrath for our sin?

Can one’s observance-obedience to the Torah satiate God’s wrath toward our sin and provide an escape from the “second death” in Hell?

No!

Those who seek the Kingdom of God through the Law are under a curse (Deuteronomy 27:27; Galatians 3:10) because the Law mandates perfection if one is to attain righteousness through Law leading to salvation (James 2:10) and all of mankind is under the curse of sin (Romans 3:23); therefore, no one is justified before God by works of the Law (Romans 3:20) as the Law only defines our sin void atonement; It is the shedding of blood that is mandated as atonement for mankind’s sin (Genesis 3:21; Leviticus 17:11; Hebrews 9:22; Hebrews 10) and it is only the sinless shed blood of Yeshua-Jesus who is God and man through the hypostatic union that atones for sin; Only the shed blood of Yeshua satiates the Father’s wrath concerning our sin, not the blood of animals as demonstrated in the Torah (Hebrews 10:4) and ONLY by trusting in Yeshua as our Messiah who died for our sin can we receive the imputation of His perfection over our life and thereby be declared “not guilty” for sin and welcomed into the Kingdom of God where nothing impure is permitted to enter (2 Corinthians 5:21; Revelation 21:27).

Jewish-Israelite error regarding “Day of Atonement”

Jewish-Israelite deception concerning the “Day of Atonement”

Apparently, many of Jacob’s children today believe, in error, that the Day of Atonement forgave the sin of the individual; not so, the Day of Atonement was National; that is, for the sins of Israel as a Nation relevant to Israel’s Covenant relationship with God. The sole purpose of the animal sacrifices was to point Israel to the coming Messiah who would take away the sins of the World and to allow the individual offering the sacrifice an opportunity to express “faith” in God and thereby find righteousness (a right standing) with God through that faith.

The animals offered for an individual’s sin could NEVER take away sin or make atonement but it was the “faith” of the one offering the sacrifice that established “righteousness” with God not the sacrifice or the blood of an animal (Hebrews 10-11). Even though an individual in the Hebrew Scriptures was made positionally “right” with God through their faith; that is, believing that God is true and will do what He has promised, their “faith” was NOT reckoned as atonement; therefore, the Old Testament saints, upon death of the body in Time, their spirit was detained in Sheol-Paradise (Abraham’s Bosom, Luke 16) awaiting Messiah’s atonement (Psalm 16:10) as nothing impure is permitted to enter the Kingdom of God (Revelation 21:27). The blood atonement of Messiah is the ONLY acceptable atonement permitting access to the Kingdom.

The Holy Spirit tells us that while Messiah’s human body laid in the tomb subsequent to His Crucifixion, Messiah descended into Sheol (Hades-Paradise) and preached liberty i.e. the Gospel to the captives there and these were taken on-high by our Lord into the Kingdom awaiting the resurrection of the righteous (Ephesians 4:7-10; 1 Peter 3:19). Subsequent to Messiah’s death, burial, resurrection, those who die in the New Covenant having trusted-believed in Jesus as Lord, these are now, subsequent to death of their body, translated immediately into the presence of our Lord awaiting the resurrection of the righteous for service in the New Jerusalem (2 Corinthians 5:8).

NO ONE, Jew-Israelite-Gentile-Man-Woman will find life in the Kingdom of God through self-righteousness or works of the Law (Romans 3:20; Ephesians 2:8-9) but ONLY by faith in Jesus Christ as Lord believing that Jesus died to pay their sin-debt, a debt they could never pay through their own efforts (John 14:6; John 3:16-18; Romans 10:9-10).

Was Adam or any other Gentile commanded to observe a Sabbath?

Elohim rested on the Sabbath. Was the Sabbath, as an edict, mandated for Adam or any Gentile subsequent to the Sixth-Day? Was Elohim required to codify the Sabbath or forbid the worship of other gods for Adam to have known God’s will?

Christian response,

Again, ad nauseam, Adam stood in the presence of God and the moral law was instilled in Adam at his creation…Adam knew God personally…there were no other Gods or Icons to worship in Adam’s world but himself, Eve and Satan…I don’t see the concept of paganism arising among the human population until the Adamic generation flowed into the Noahic generation and the corruption of the human genome and the sin-nature began a catalyst push toward apostasy (Genesis 6).

Nearly half of all human history is reflected in the Genesis narrative and not once does Elohim command Sabbath observance. To suggest that He did is conjecture and adding to the Scriptures on your part…if the Sabbath edict was truly as important to Elohim as your obsessions with it suggest, there would have been a clear and defining edict for all of humankind to follow yet it’s absent until Exodus 16 as God established the Sabbath Day as a Covenant between Himself and Israel’s children. We know this because God was required to provide Moses EXACTING instructions relevant to how the Sabbath was to be honored; this, because NO prior PRECEDENT existed.

12 Then the Lord said to Moses, 13 “Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy. Exodus 31

Works Salvation? Revelation 14:12

Works Salvation? “Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.” Revelation 14:12 (NASB)

Christian response,

Jesus’ Commandments are the subject here, not the Covenant of Law/the Decalogue and no one keeps the Commandments of Jesus unless they have first established relationship with the Father by grace through faith in Jesus as Lord and received the indwelling Holy Spirit who walks them in obedience through sanctification. It is the indwelling Holy Spirit who is Guarantor of relationship with the Father (Ephesians 1:13-14) and it the Holy Spirit and Jesus and the Father who keep the faithful from stumbling and ensures their endurance in the faith to the end (Jude 1:24-25; John 10:28-30). No one possess the indwelling Holy Spirit in the New Covenant unless they have first established covenant relationship with the Father by faith-belief-trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord who died to pay their sin-debt (John 3).

Confusion INRE to Adam-Eve-Original Sin? An explanation…

Confusion INRE to Adam-Eve-Original sin? An explanation…

Christian response,

It is Adam’s seed via federal headship that carries the sin-nature to all of humankind (Romans 5:12). Though both Adam and his wife, Eve, are culpable for disobedience, Adam carries the greater, enhanced, weight of culpability because of federal headship and the truism that Adam received the edict to not compromise with evil DIRECTLY from Elohim whereas Eve received the command by hearsay from her husband, Adam; in fact, we’re not sure if Eve was instructed properly and accurately by Adam as Eve, when tempted by Satan/the Serpent, added “touching” the fruit as a prohibition which Elohim never gave such command.

Also, it’s important to note that when Eve disobeyed and compromised with evil, NOTHING manifest in Eden…not until such time that Adam relented to the enticement of his wife to disobey Elohim did the evidence and ramifications of sin manifest in Adam and Eve e.g. fear, shame, hiding from God, obfuscation, displaced blame and accusations, refusal to take responsibility.

This is one reason our Messiah Yeshua-Jesus entered the Realm of Time through the virgin womb as first noted in Genesis 3:15, Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23 as Yeshua-Jesus circumvented the sin-nature transferred by Adam’s seed to all of mankind and it is our earthly father that transfers this sin-nature which initiated corruption/atrophy of the human genome and ultimately spiritual and physical death among all of humankind beginning in Eden.

Having circumvented the sin-nature via the virgin birth, Yeshua-Jesus walked among us for 33.5-years in complete righteousness, sinlessness, thereby making Himself the ONLY acceptable sacrifice, atonement, the spotless Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the World (John 1:29) and everyone who trusts in Yeshua-Jesus as Messiah believing that He died to pay their sin-debt will receive the imputation of Messiah’s perfection, righteousness, over their life in exchange for their sin-debt which has been paid in full by faith in Yeshua-Jesus as Lord (2 Corinthians 5:21; Romans 10:9-10). Paradise lost will be Paradise restored by faith in Yeshua-Jesus (the 2nd-Adam) as Lord (1 Corinthians 15:45; Romans 5).

The Necessity of Yeshua as Lord?

The Necessity of Yeshua as Lord?


The Torah is NOTHING novel or NEW as the moral law has been extant from the creation of the angels as the moral law of God is the arbiter of free will.The Torah was given to a SPECIFIC people group set-apart beginning with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, as these people were to be holy before God as God is Holy and they were to be set-apart for God’s eschatological purposes concerning the Gospel of Messiah who would enter Time through the Tribe of Judah. The Torah’s only relevance today in the New Covenant is the moral law reiterated by same and ultimately infused within the New Covenant through Messiah’s Commandments.


The Torah ONLY defined our sin but provided no atonement (Romans 3:20); The Torah only curses the one seeking righteousness through Law (Galatians 3:10; Deuteronomy 27:26). Faith-trusting in Yeshua for the forgiveness of sin is mankind’s only Hope as only the shedding of blood provides atonement (Leviticus 17:11; Hebrews 9:22; Hebrews 10; Genesis 3:21). We know that the blood of animals could not atone for sin (Hebrews 10:4); therefore, the Father prepared a body, the Lamb of God, to atone for your sin (John 1:29) i.e. Yeshua our Messiah.


Yeshua is the fulfillment of the prophecy provided by Elohim in Genesis 3:21 and it is only by faith in the shed blood of Yeshua that one enters into covenant relationship with the Father and receives the indwelling Holy Spirit as Guarantor of that relationship, forever (John 3:16-18; Ephesians 1:13-14). It is the one who believes in Yeshua as Lord that is justified before the Father, NOT the one who works in self-righteousness through Law.

Grace, Faith, Trust V. Self-righteousness through Law

Grace-Faith-Trust v. Self-Righteousness through Law…

At no time in human history was man saved from sin by self-righteousness through works…this truism was first demonstrated in Genesis 3:21 with the shedding of innocent blood by God to cover the sin and shame of Adam with an imputed robe of righteousness while rejecting the works of Adam’s hands to cover his own sin with fig-leaves. From The Beginning, faith has been the KEY to relationship with our God (Hebrews 11).

It is written,

6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:6 (KJV)

It is only by faith-trusting in Jesus our Messiah who kept the Law for us in perfection (Matthew 5:17) that we can receive the righteousness of Jesus imputed into our life in exchange for our sin that condemns us to Hell (2 Corinthians 5:21). It is the imputed righteousness of Jesus earned for us at Golgotha/the Crucifixion that initiates covenant relationship with the Father (John 3:16) and this covenant relationship is initiated when a man or woman humbles them self before God and believes-trusts in Jesus Christ as our Lord who suffered and died and shed His sinless blood to pay our sin-debt…a debt that could never be satisfied by works of the Law in self-righteousness (John 3:16-18; Romans 10:9-10).

Jesus Christ-Yeshua as your Lord is the ONLY Way to life in the Kingdom of God subsequent to death of the body in Time (John 14:6).

What does Jesus mean by “if you love me you will keep my commandments”?

What does Jesus mean by “…if you love me you will keep my Commandments…”? John 14:15

Christian response,

NO ONE finds covenant relationship through Law, no one (Romans 3:20). The Commandments spoken of by Jesus are HIS COMMANDMENTS, not the Decalogue in the Old Covenant. And obedience to Messiah’s Commandments are NOT possible or relevant to God until such time a covenant relationship with the Father is established by grace through faith in Jesus as our Lord and the Holy Spirit takes-up residence within the believer who then teaches those Commandments to the faithful (John 14:26) and walks them in sanctification/obedience as He prepares the faithful for service in the New Jerusalem.

Until such time one establishes Covenant Relationship with the Father, your works and striving after Law is futile as our best works on our best day are as a filthy menstrual cloth in the nose of God (Isaiah 64:6). Legalists, Jews, Israelites, Cults, do NOT understand God’s truth because they’re hung up in a Covenant that provides NOTHING but knowledge of our culpability void atonement (Romans 3:20).

It is the one who BELIEVES in Jesus as Lord that is saved from death in sin and Hell and NOT the one who strives after self-righteousness through Law. Our obedience is relevant SUBSEQUENT to our salvation as our obedience SUBSEQUENT to our salvation is verification of our saving faith have led to a new creation in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17).

Romans 8:2

“For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”

Romans 3:20

“20 because by the works of the Law none of mankind will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes knowledge of sin.”

SDA & Jewish Roots obsession with the Decalogue…

SDA and Jewish Roots obsession with the Ten-Commandments…
Christian response,
It’s not that anyone fights against the Decalogue, it’s the fact that the Decalogue, the moral laws articulated therein, have been infused within the New Covenant via Messiah’s Commandments and the Christian does not look to the Decalogue for guidance i.e. the Old Covenant of Law but the Christian looks to the Holy Spirit and Messiah’s Commandments written upon our heart, administered by the Spirit via sanctification in the New Covenant, for wisdom and obedience as the Spirit prepares us for service in the New Jerusalem.
If the Christian never had access to the Ten-Commandments/or the Torah…their covenant relationship with the Father would be unimpeded as Jesus is our Law and our Lord.

See Messiah’s Commandments: https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/dictionary/viewtopic.cfm?topic=ST0000031

Is Christianity Lawlessness masked by Grace?

A participant in a religious debate forum asked why it is that Jesus taught the Father’s Ten-Commandments yet Christians deny them as relevant through their alleged disobedience to the Decalogue?

Christian response,

The demonically inspired propaganda that Christianity is lawlessness is foolishness and an agenda promulgated by legalists and the cult of the SDA – Sabbatarianism and Jewish Roots fanatics. The Decalogue was given SPECIFICALLY to Jacob’s children through Moses at Sinai and they are NOTHING NEW but simply a reiteration and codification in stone of the moral law written upon our heart at conception having been extant from the creation of the angels as these moral laws (9 of the 10) act as an arbiter of free will. As a servant of Jesus Christ, I am NOT under the Law of the Covenant, I am under GRACE in my LORD (Romans 6:14). Please, allow me to explain…

What is the difference between the Letter and the Spirit?

Christianity adheres to a stricter and more demanding LAW than the Covenant of Law could ever produce. Jesus’ Commandments articulated during His Earthly ministry (not the Decalogue per se), are written upon the heart of the faithful in Him by faith. Jesus’ Commandments are methodically administered by the indwelling Holy Spirit through sanctification via the conscience and those LAWS-Commandments possess increased culpability through mens rea or the “thought life;” this, as no longer must an individual physiologically perform the sin to internalize culpability but the mere THOUGHT of the sin is condemnation (Matthew 5:27-28).

Again, the Christian walks in obedience to the Commandments of JESUS which are written upon the heart of those who love Him and these Commandments are carefully, methodically, internalized and processed WITHIN every true believer by the Spirit via the conscience (John 14:26). Please STOP with the “Christianity is lawlessness” nonsense, it’s the Devils work.