Quotation from a contributor concerning discourse with an atheist: “…by definition, an atheist is someone who believes NO god exists. Don’t forget… to someone who doesn’t believe in God, the Bible is just a best selling book. Quoting its contents will be meaningless to him.”
This contributor’s summation is spiritually and Biblically incorrect…
Scripture is NEVER meaningless…it never returns void and always accomplishes that for which it is sent. Always speak truth to darkness. There are no atheists…just those who deny what they intuitively know to be truth (Romans 1:20); this, because they love their immorality and their selfishness-narcissism more than the One who possesses dominion over them. Jesus provided the template for conversing with evil, always use God’s enteral words (Matthew 4).
Atheist asked: “Why did your God initiate a Flood that murdered men, women, babies?” “Your God is a tyrant.”
First of all, Elohim does not “murder” as He is sovereign over all life; Elohim possesses dominion over all life; Elohim is the Creator of all life, both angelic and human; humanity is created in the spiritual image of Elohim (Genesis 1:26-27) and receives the spark of life as life IS Elohim; therefore, when the body of flesh dies away that life, that spirit, encapsulated by decaying flesh simply returns home to the One who gave it as that human spirit is integral to all that Elohim is, Spirit (Genesis 1:26-27; John 4:24; Ecclesiastes 12:7; 2 Corinthians 5:8); therefore, Elohim does NOT murder Himself but receives back to Himself that which He gives exclusively for relationship and to further His eschatological purposes concerning the Realm of Time and the Spiritual Realm.
Second, our entire creation in Time, the Heavens, the Earth, the complex human genome, all matter, has manifest in response to an unfathomable coup d’état that manifest in Elohim’s Kingdom (the Spiritual Realm) mandating the extrication of those seeking to overthrow the dominion and sovereignty of Elohim (Luke 10:18; Revelation 12; Isaiah 14; Deuteronomy 28:11+; John 8:44); therefore, our Heavenly Father delegated all authority to His Son, Jesus Christ (John 3:35), as Author of the Creation Narrative (Genesis 1; John 1; Hebrews 1; Colossians 1).
It is the Son, Jesus Christ, who has methodically taken elements from the unseen Spiritual Realm and fashioned those elements into matter and placed that matter under the constraints of Time and physics (Hebrews 11:3) fitted appropriately for the Father’s eschatological purposes as the Son is also delegated the divine authority “to destroy the works of the Devil” (1 John 3:8b) using the Gospel of Grace as the “battle strategy” where Satan’s deception and evil is destroyed via selfless love and sacrifice, a sacrifice performed by Elohim Himself via the Son via the Holy Spirit at Golgotha (1 John 3:8b; Genesis 3:15-21); the Gospel of Jesus Christ having been ordained “before Time began” specifically to deal with Satan’s rebellion (2 Timothy 1:8-10).
It is unfortunate, tragic, but the Adamic and Noahic generations fell victim to unrestrained demonic influences (Genesis 6; Jude 1:6; Romans 1:18-32) and these generations of men, women and children were taken captive by the demonic and through deception, addiction to narcissism, immorality, the Adamic and Noahic generations morphed into haters of Elohim eschewing any semblance of sustainable mores, norms, values; therefore, Elohim was grieved that He had created human kind upon the Earth (Genesis 6) as Elohim refused to make any attempt to set-apart or sanctify a people group from the Adamic and Noahic generations through whom He would introduce His Messiah and ultimately His Gospel whereby Elohim would defeat, destroy, the evil of Satan while strategically maintaining volitional love with His cherished angelic creation that remained faithful to Him during the before mentioned coup d’état.
Therefore, Elohim reluctantly destroyed all but eight of the Adamic and Noahic generations by water and Noah found favor with Elohim (Genesis 6:8) and through Noah, Noah’s family, Elohim began anew and ultimately sanctified a people group for His eschatological purposes via the Patriarchy of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (Israel); ultimately, through the Tribe of Judah, Elohim introduced His Messiah to the World and through the Gospel that is manifest via Messiah, Elohim fulfilled His promise to Abraham (Genesis 12:3b) and destroyed the works of the Devil (death, Hell, the grave) through selfless love historically chronicled via the divine words “It is finished” (John 19:30).
The destruction of the Adamic and Noahic generations was absolutely essential if Elohim was to destroy the works of Satan and provide a path to eternal life via the forgiveness of sin via the Gospel via Messiah Jesus via Elohim’s own selfless love; this, while maintaining volitional love with His angelic creation and simultaneously establishing a bulwark against future rebellion in the Kingdom where nothing impure is permitted to exist (Revelation 21:27) yet free will remains extant by necessity.
The Bible is divine, eternal, irrefutable, Truth (John 17:17) as it is inspired and preserved and provided by the Holy Spirit (2 Timothy 3:16-17); therefore, you will “choose” to read, study and internalize its wisdom and words of life and find forgiveness for your sin through faith in Jesus Christ as Messiah (2 Timothy 2:15; John 3) or you’ll “choose” to scoff and live in the nihilism and foolishness of demonic atheism and die the “second death” in Hell (Revelation 20:11-15). The “choice” is yours as you possess “free will” as God is “Pro-Choice” in order that love, covenant relationship, intimacy, with Him can manifest with purity and authenticity; therefore, choose this day whom you will serve, Jesus Christ (LIFE) or Satan (DEATH) (Joshua 24:15).
26 Then God said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the livestock and over all the earth, and over every crawling thing that crawls on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Genesis 1:26-27 (NASB)
In what manner is Human Kind created in the image of Elohim?
Elohim’s eschatological plan “to destroy the works of the Devil” (Genesis 3:15-21; 1 John 3:8b) while simultaneously maintaining intimate relationship with His faithful Angelic creation directly involves the creation of the human species created in the spiritual image of Elohim by necessity.
Elohim is Spirit (John 4:24) and humanity is spirit encapsulated within a body of flesh rightly fitted for interaction and service in a Realm subject to Time, matter, physics. Though Yeshua-Jesus Christ was delegated all authority concerning the creation narrative (John 3:35; Genesis 1; John 1; Hebrews 1; Colossians 1; Hebrews 11:3), Genesis 1:26 proclaims a unique collaboration between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as they meticulously formed, created, the complex human genome and imparted certain divine communicable attributes into that genome critically essential for Elohim’s eschatological purposes going forward.
Humanity is created in the “spiritual image” of Elohim possessing certain divine communicable attributes making humanity unique and divinely isolated from the beasts of the field and fish of the sea and fowl of the air. Human Kind possesses a unique eternal spirit that finds its genesis in the Spiritual Realm and that eternal spirit, created in the spiritual image of Elohim, though encapsulated by a body of decaying flesh due to Adam’s compromise with evil (Romans 5:12), will not experience death along with the body but at the last exhalation in Time will simply transition, return, to its natural abode, the Spiritual Realm (2 Corinthians 5:8).
Atheist asked: “Why does God allow women who will abort their baby to become pregnant? Because there is no God.”
Our Creator is very active in the daily life of His creation…He allows the sperm and ovum to unite…as the man and woman have “chosen” to engage in what our Creator has foreordained for procreation to manifest. If they’re engaging in the act of procreation apart from our Creator’s blessing, His covenant of marriage, they sow and reap in their disobedience…murdering i.e. aborting the consequences of fornication or adultery simply enhances their culpability before our Creator. The foolishness and demonic root of atheism is not a defense to prosecution in Eternity before relegation to Hell.
Atheist asked: ”Rick, why do you believe in a God or a Creator? Isn’t your belief simply a manifestation of parental training, conditioning and Church attendance as a youth?”
Not at all; actually, my faith in Jesus Christ is founded in scientific methodology. I see, observe daily, what is before me in nature, the World around me…I have tested it via thorough daily interaction and years of interactive experience and the results of those experiences are repeatable, verifiable, tangible to the senses, logic, reason; therefore, I conclude that someone with supernatural abilities has designed the World around me and the incredibly complex genome within me and therefore I must conclude that there is an omnipotent Designer (Romans 1:20).
My pursuit of knowledge as a young man continued and ultimately included a graduate degree (later in life) but questions remained; therefore, following scientific methodology I was led to Darwin who provided a theory concerning life and the origin of the species but I found that theory lacking as it simply did not actually explain origin; Darwin proceeded to confuse the Biblical KIND (Genesis 1) with species which was very troubling to me while the evolutionary concept of “speciation” created a stumbling block between changes within a KIND of animal (visible in nature) v. changes from one-KIND to another KIND (not visible in nature) while mandating unfathomable periods of Time for these unexplained genomic evolutionary changes to manifest; most disturbing, I found Darwin’s theory to be completely irrelevant and inadequate concerning “origin” as Darwin begins with life having previously experienced its genesis. Enter, abiogenesis and descent with modification; both warring against logic and reason and commonsense while failing to actually address “origin.”
I pursued other “scientific” explanations concerning our genesis (the “Big Bang”) but they too were lacking. At age 35, I visited a bookstore in Elgin, Illinois while vacationing there. I picked up a paraphrased version of the Bible called “The Living Bible” and returned to the apartment and sat on a couch and began to read. Approximately half-way through the Living Bible I looked up and asked “Where has this been all my life?” I’m now 65-years of age, 30-years have passed since that first thorough read of the Scriptures, and that initial read of a paraphrased Bible led to an incredibly in-depth study of the Scriptures, including targeted study in the Hebrew and Greek; ultimately, I discovered the who, what, where, when, why, how, concerning origin of matter, Time, the human genome, purpose of life and my eschatological purpose in this World.
Finally, my questions about origin were answered by the Holy Spirit who faithfully came along side me and tutored me through every word, every precept, every line of Scripture (1 John 2:27). I now understand causation for our Creation and why Elohim has done what He has done and His eschatological purposes going forward.
I can now testify that no greater life, no greater peace, no greater assurance, no greater relevant knowledge exists than knowing one is in covenant relationship with our Heavenly Father by faith in the Son, Jesus Christ, while walking daily in the love and peace and intimacy of the indwelling Holy Spirit. There is no greater life available to human kind. I know that I know; this, with confidence and assurance.
Atheism: unmitigated hypocrisy, spiritual deception-illness on public display…a vulgar shame to any people seeking decency and sustainability…
The facade of the atheist is the epitome of hypocrisy and self-deception. A spiritually and mentally ill people who proclaim the attributes of “science” as their god citing logic and reason as their corrupt motive for denying our Creator yet display cowardliness and ignorance in their inability to define origin of matter, origin of the human genome, apart from design and a mandated Designer. Atheists, a narcissistic and perverse people who mock the Holy Scriptures yet are spiritually ignorant of their Truth and the eschatological value in promoting a life of sustainable morality, ethics, values.
Atheism is the root of the demonic and has as its clueless constituency those who advocate for the mutilation of babies in the womb; the moral filth and debasement of homosexuality-lesbianism-transsexualism-child sexual mutilation in gender confusion/reassignment. Atheism is a demonically destructive religion in any society but is an especially destructive metastasizing malignancy in America’s Constitutional Republic. A hoard of demons who destroy a Nation’s soul in vulgar moral and ethical rot. Vile and disgusting at its core…atheism, secular humanism is deserving of the Lake of Fire.
Concerning the genesis of, the purpose for, Natural Law…
Natural Law, moral law, exists as it was implemented by our Creator in conjunction with the creation of the angels as Natural Law acts as an arbiter of free will. Freedom of choice, volition, divine communicable attributes provided humanity by Elohim on the 6th-Day of Creation, is essential for love, relationship, intimacy, with our Creator to manifest with purity and authenticity.
Natural Law is also essential as a bulwark against unrestrained narcissism that would ultimately culminate in societal implosion which would thwart our Creator’s eschatological plan concerning the restoration of holiness, righteousness, to His Kingdom; chaos introduced into Elohim’s Kingdom via a rebellious, covetous, cherub angel; that chaos being causation for the creation of Time, matter, our Universe, as a temporary repository for Satan’s coup d’état; that coup having been relegated and partially constrained by Time and physics as Elohim deals with sin and rebellion via Messiah Jesus (1 John 3:8b).
Finally, Natural Law will be used by our Creator, Jesus Christ, at the “Judgment of the Condemned” (Revelation 20:10-15) to adjudicate Satan and the fallen angels (Revelation 20:10) along with the sin, rebellion, of humanity who has rejected the sovereign grace, the imputed righteousness of Jesus by faith in Him as our Messiah for the forgiveness of sin (John 3; 2 Corinthians 5:21).
You go about studying the Scriptures, initially, by finding you an easily readable version in your language….NOT the King James Version as your first read…then sit quietly possessing a heart that is willing to consider the truth before you and ask the Holy Spirit to enter your life and reveal to you the deeper truths you are preparing to internalize…open the Bible to the “Gospel of John” and carefully read every word before you…mediate upon what you’re reading….this is your introduction to a life that is beyond human comprehension. Every question you’ve ever had about who, what, where, when, why, how, concerning this life and your place therein is answered between the Genesis and the Revelation. Enjoy the greatest journey known to mankind; that is, entering into a covenant relationship with your Creator, Jesus Christ.
Holy men of old wrote as meticulously inspired by the Holy Spirit as Elohim has chosen to use His created beings as tools in His eschatological plan to destroy the works of the Devil via Messiah (1 John 3:8b). Every word of Scripture comes to you via the Holy Spirit and is given to you so that you can know our Creator personally and His eschatological plan for Time, Eternity, your life.
Forty-authors over 1400-years spanning three-continents, three-languages via the Holy Spirit’s sovereign protection provided you Elohim’s “love letter” to His human creation. You have a purpose in this temporary life within the Realm of Time and atheism defiles that purpose. Read carefully the “Gospel of John” and make an informed decision concerning your eternal destiny. Atheists, please do not die in spiritual ignorance in servitude to the Devil?