Without Torah Law, how does humanity differentiate between good v. evil, righteousness v. iniquity?

How was sin judged in the Kingdom? How was Satan judged of covetousness that initiated his extrication from the Kingdom (Luke 10:18; John 8:44)? How were the Adamic and the Noahic generations judged of demonically inspired defilement worthy of extinction by water save eight (Genesis 6)?

“Where there is no law there is no sin” (Romans 4:15; 5:13); therefore, the Spiritual Law or “the Law of the Spirit of Life” (Romans 2:14-15; Romans 8:2) was actively working within the Eternal Realm and upon the Earth, thousand of years prior to Sinai, judging the thoughts and intent of man’s heart. Sinai’s laws were nothing new or novel but simply a codification of the Spiritual Law written upon the heart of humanity on Day-6 as Elohim created human kind in His spiritual image and imparted certain divine communicable attributes into human kind for the Father’s eschatological purposes going forward.

Torah Law was given exclusively to Israel’s children and sojourners with them as a bulwark against the failures of the Adamic/Noahic generations and their compromise with evil which thwarted their viability as progenitors of the Messiah who would enter the Realm of Time specifically “to destroy the works of the devil” (1 John 3:8b) via a battle strategy now known as “the Gospel” which was ordained “before Time began” (2 Timothy 1:8-10; Genesis 3:21). In the New Covenant, the Spiritual Law is used almost exclusively by the indwelling Holy Spirit via a redeemed conscience (2 Corinthians 5:17) to produce fruits of righteousness (Galatians 5) through the redeemed that honors the Father and furthers His eschatological work going forward.

Torah plays very little, if any, significant role in the work of the Spirit in the New Covenant as the Spiritual Law of the Spirit of Life (Romans 8:2) takes precedent and will continue to take precedent as Elohim’s arbiter of free will throughout Eternity as free will remains extant in Eternity by necessity.

Torah Law – “the law of sin and death” (Romans 8:2)…an explanation for the self-righteous legalist that frequents these forums…

Anyone who seeks Torah for eternal life will perish in sin because Torah is nothing more than a tutor, a road map, to Messiah and eternal life through faith (Galatians 3:24). Torah defines sin, explains man’s need for an Intercessor but provides no atonement which is essential to initiating eternal covenant with the Father (Romans 3:20; Leviticus 17:11; Galatians 2:16).

Torah’s limitations,

Torah mandates absolute perfection in word and deed if one is to initiate covenant with the Father thorough observant works (James 2:10) but human kind is under the Adamic curse (Romans 5:12); human kind is sinful by nature (Romans 3:23); therefore, anyone who seeks eternal covenant with the Father as a pardon from death in Hell via Torah Law, this person is “cursed” (Galatians 3:10) and lest they repent and trust fully in the pardon offered only by faith in Yeshua as Messiah (John 3; John 14:6), they will surely perish in their sin (John 8:24) and ultimately the Lake of Fire subsequent Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

You and millions like you who are rebellious and arrogant toward Messiah will suffer the second death in Hell lest you humble yourself and approach the Father in sincere repentance (Luke 13:3) and sincere faith-trust in Messiah Yeshua as your Lord and Savior who shed His innocent blood to pay your sin-debt for you (John 3)… a debt that Torah only defines but lack the ability to provide restitution (Romans 3:20).

Obedience that eternally pleases the Father,

The only human obedience that eternally honors the Father is the production of righteous fruit that is manifest through sanctification via the anointing of the indwelling Holy Spirit who is given as Guarantor of New Covenant with the Father by faith in Yeshua as Messiah (Ephesians 1:13-14; Galatians 5). This production of righteous fruit manifests through a redeemed conscience (2 Corinthians 5:17) that is arbitrated by the spiritual law written upon the heart (Romans 2:14-15) and methodically applied in the life of the redeemed during sanctification (Galatians 5:16). Works of Torah Law performed with the motive of initiating righteousness with the Father is equated to a “filthy garment” or “bloody menstrual cloth” in the literal Hebrew (Isaiah 64:6).

Torah – Quran – Yeshua,

Your self-righteous mindset through Torah is why only a “remnant” of Israel’s children and those deceived by the religions of Judaism and Islam (the Quran – a plagiarized Torah) will escape the second death in the Lake of Fire (Isaiah 10:22; Romans 9:27); that is, unbelief, rejection, of Messiah Yeshua as atonement for your sin and Yeshua as the ONLY Path to imputed-gifted righteousness with the Father by faith, alone (2 Corinthians 5:21; Acts 4:12). Yeshua as Messiah by faith is the ONLY Way to life with the Father (John 14:6).

Elohim’s priority – Law or Relationship?

Many who frequent these religious forums possess a warped understanding of the Father’s passion relevant to His New Covenant, His eschatological desire for humanity going forward. Jews-Israelite’s-Hebrew Roots-SDA-factions of Pentecostalism-other cults and sects and religions possess a legalistic passion for “do this” and “do that” and “don’t do that” and “keep this” and “observe that” while those passions would be better focused and eternally more profitable by proselytizing the spiritually lost, the spiritually ignorant, the soul headed to death in Hell, and showing them the Way to establish New Covenant relationship with the Father through faith in the Son and then allow the indwelling Holy Spirit to take care of obedience through sanctification where the Spirit produces fruits of righteousness via a redeemed conscience, fruits, obedience, against which there is no Law (Galatians 5).

Law or Grace through Faith?

Man does not require more “law” but man desperately needs intimacy with his Creator and a redeemed heart, a new heart, that desires the things of Elohim and not the desires of the flesh (2 Corinthians 5:17; Galatians 5:16). True divine intimacy with Elohim is only possible by grace (unmerited favor) through faith in Jesus as Messiah which initiates New Covenant relationship with the Father via imputed-gifted righteousness and daily sanctification via the indwelling Holy Spirit (John 3; Ephesians 1:13-14; Galatians 5:16).

If Jesus is Elohim, Deity, why does He purport to not know the day or the hour of His 2nd-Advent but only the Father is privileged with this information? Matthew 24:36

Free will remains extant among human kind, the angels, as well as within the triune Deity, Elohim. Messiah Jesus, the Son, will not return to Mount Olivet to initiate His Millennial Reign until a specific number of redeemed via the Gospel of Grace have been readied for the Kingdom by faith. The Father has chosen to allow free will, volition, among human kind, to determine the initiation of the Tribulation Era and the encroaching nuclear horror that permeates and finalizes the Tribulation and the 2nd-Advent; in other words, “that Day” is fluid as men and women are choosing the Kingdom of Elohim by faith or choosing the kingdom of Satan via self-righteousness.

The Father, as Administrator of the Triune Elohim, knows the “number” of redeemed that will replenish the Kingdom which is now partially void as one-third of the Kingdom’s servants followed Satan in the great rebellion. It’s interesting to theorize that just as our physical Earth deplores a void, a vacuum, in its atmosphere, so does our Creator deplore the void left by Satan’s rebellion in the Kingdom; therefore, it is reasonable, plausible, to believe that until the number of redeemed in Jesus corresponds to the number of fallen angels who were extricated from the Kingdom due to rebellion and unfaithfulness, the Realm of Time will continue and the “age of grace” will endure until that specific number of redeemed has entered the Kingdom through the Gospel of Grace.

Father – Administrator

Son – Creator, Warrior, Messiah, Judge

Holy Spirit – Logistics

Relevance of the 4th-Commandment for the Christian in the Age of Grace and relevance of the Sabbath honored in the Millennial Kingdom? What about the Genesis Sabbath as well?

The 4th-Commandment was given solely to Israel’s children and sojourners with them for sanctification purposes beginning in Exodus 16 (Ezekiel 20:12). The Sabbath edict, the Torah Law, will be re-instituted in-part during the Millennial Kingdom; this, not to glorify Israel but as a historical example of what Elohim has done to provided humanity a Path to righteousness through the Gospel, a Gospel of grace through faith that is foreshadowed throughout the Torah and ultimately fulfilled in Messiah Jesus.

For the Christian who seeks wisdom through the Spirit, the Sabbath foreshadowed Messiah’s rest from an arduous and demanding Law Covenant that could never provide a covenant of peace with the Father through righteousness as the Law Covenant demanded absolute perfection in word and deed in order to attain righteousness through it (James 2:10), but the “law of sin and death” (Torah Law, Romans 8:2) only cursed the one who sought covenant with the Father via obedience (Galatians 3:10); this, due to the Adamic sin-nature (Romans 3:23; Isaiah 64:6) as Torah Law defines sin but provides no form of acceptable atonement (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16); therefore, concerning the Christian, Messiah Jesus IS our Sabbath’s rest, both the Genesis Sabbath and the Sabbath edict given Israel beginning in Exodus 16.

Christianity and the Sabbath,

When one honors Jesus by faith, they honor all that the Sabbath edict given Israel and the Sabbath Day of Rest in the Genesis foreshadowed (Colossians 2:16; Matthew 11:28-30); therefore, when the Christian honors Jesus as Messiah by faith, they honor the 4th-Commandment and they honor Elohim’s example of “rest” on Day-7.

Torah Law – Relevant for the Christian?

God’s Law (Romans 2:14-15), the Law of the Spirit of Life (Romans 8:2), is eternal and has been relevant subsequent the creation of the angles as God’s Spiritual Law is the arbiter of free will in both Eternity and within the Realm of Time.

On the other hand,

Torah Law, much like the code of Hammurabi, is nothing new or novel but simply a codification of the eternal spiritual law etched in stone and given to a people group who were to be sanctified (set apart and made holy) for Elohim’s eschatological purposes. Torah Law was provided Israel’s children in hopes of negating a repeat of the failures of the Adamic/Noahic generations who had compromised with the demonic and negated their ability to produce the Messiah, a Messiah who was to enter Time and “destroy the works of the Devil” (Genesis 3:15; 1 John 3:8b) via a battle strategy known as “The Gospel,” a battle strategy which was ordained “before Time began” (2 Timothy 1:8-10; Genesis 3:21); therefore, Elohim etched nine-relevant moral edicts of the Spiritual Law (Romans 2:14-15) into stone (1-ceremonial law/the 4th) and commissioned Moses to scratch 603-ceremonial-civil laws on parchment in hopes of deterring Israel’s children from compromise with pagan tribes serving pagan gods that inundated the lands through which Israel’s children would travel; a demonic-paganized people who relentlessly sought Israel’s compromise with Baal and Molech.

Torah Law in the New Covenant,

Torah Law was given specifically to Israel’s children and sojourners with them seeking the protective benefits of that Theocracy. Torah Law has very little relevance in the New Covenant other than acting as a Tutor for wayward Jews and Israelite’s (Galatians 3:24) as the New Covenant is rooted in the eternal spiritual law which is enlivened by the indwelling Holy Spirit in the life of the redeemed in Jesus and the Spirit simultaneously employs both the redeemed conscience (2 Corinthians 5:17) and the spiritual law written upon the heart of humanity on Day-6; the Holy Spirit, employing both the spiritual law and the redeemed conscience, walks the redeemed in Jesus in the daily process of sanctification and methodically guides the redeemed conscience to produce fruits of righteousness, fruit that honors the Father, fruit…against which there is no Law (Galatians 5); hence, Christians are not enslaved by Torah Law but serve the Father through the Spirit via a redeemed conscience and are therefore “free” and in “peace” with our Creator. Jesus proclaimed that you would know them by their “fruit” (Matthew 7:15-20). Christians are not under Torah Law but under grace through faith (Romans 6:14).

Luke 6:46-49 (a brief exegesis) Obedience via the flesh or the Spirit?

Jesus said,

46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? 47 Everyone who comes to me and hears my words and does them, I will show you what he is like: 48 he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when a flood arose, the stream broke against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. 49 But the one who hears and does not do them is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. When the stream broke against it, immediately it fell, and the ruin of that house was great.”

Is Messiah Jesus teaching a works salvation through obedience to His precepts provided during the initiation of the New Covenant?

If one is truly born again by faith in Jesus as Messiah, they will naturally honor Jesus through obedience to the indwelling Holy Spirit who is Gifted the redeemed as Guarantor of New Covenant with the Father (Ephesians 1:13-14). If it were possible to honor the Father through perfect obedience to Messiah’s commandments absent the indwelling Holy Spirit, Jesus would not have needed to suffer and die in your place; therefore, the KEY to honoring the precepts given us by Messiah during His Earthly ministry is to honor the Father by faith in the Son and subsequently receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit and walk in obedience to the indwelling Holy Spirit producing “fruit” via a redeemed conscience (Galatians 5).

The only works, obedience, philanthropy, that truly honors the Father are those performed through the indwelling Holy Spirit during the daily process of sanctification; all other works, philanthropy, law-keeping, are considered a “filthy rag” or “bloody menstrual cloth” in the presence of the Father (Isaiah 64:6). Only the works of the redeemed in Jesus performed by the power and strength of the indwelling Holy Spirit will endure Messiah’s BEMA Judgment involving the redeemed (1 Corinthians 3:10-15). All works performed absent covenant with the Father through faith in Jesus will be judged at the “Judgment of the Condemned” and these works will testify against the condemned and severity of punishment meted-out accordingly (Revelation 20:11-15).

1 Peter 1:22 (Works or Gifted Purity?)

[22] Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

What is Simon Peter teaching? A brief exegesis…

“…ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit”...does this suggest a works salvation through obedience or self-righteousness through law or rule keeping?

The “truth through the Spirit” is the Spirit’s wooing the individual to the Truth of the Gospel, drawing others to the Truth through the Gospel message of Jesus Christ as Messiah and the pure heart or purified soul is the resultant of gifted-imputed righteousness granted the one who “believes” by faith in Jesus as Messiah who died for them; purity or a purified soul is not of the natural man (Romans 3:23) nor does purity manifest through works of law or self-righteousness (Romans 3:20) but purity, holiness, is a gifted purity of “grace” through “faith” in the only One who actually maintained a life of sinless “purity,” Jesus Christ; as a divine consequence of one’s abiding faith in Jesus as Messiah, the Father agrees, by covenant promise, to Gift the righteousness, perfection, of Jesus into and over the life of the one who believes and consequently the Father declares them “not guilty” by covenant promise (2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 8:12).

This gifted-imputed divine righteousness cannot be earned by humanity but is gifted by grace through faith just as Elohim first demonstrated in Genesis 3:21 by the shedding of innocent blood, clothing humanity in an imputed-gifted robe of righteousness (animal skins) while simultaneously rejecting man’s vain attempts to cover and conceal his own shame (fig leaves).

James 2:26: “For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.” What is James teaching in context?

James prefaces v. 26 with this: “21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. 24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”

In Genesis 15:6 we are told that Abraham “believed the Lord, and he counted it to him as righteousness.” It’s important to note that Abraham initiated a covenant of righteousness with the Father long before Abraham’s works were noted by the Father in Genesis 26:5,

4 I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, 5 because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.”

What is James teaching here?

James teaches that the one who has honored the Father with true faith in the Son, Jesus, as Messiah will naturally and inevitably produce “fruit” that honors the Father, Son and Spirit during daily sanctification; that is, abiding faith, saving faith, produces good works that validate that faith and confirm it as authentic. Jesus said you would know them by their fruit (Matthew 7:15-20).

James is NOT teaching a works salvation or that works, commandment-keeping somehow supplement or is involved in redemption of the soul by faith in Messiah.

Salvation, forgiveness of sin, a pardon from the “second death” in Hell, is ONLY initiated by repentance and abiding, sincere, authentic, faith in Jesus Christ as Messiah believing that Jesus shed His innocent blood for the atonement of your sin; therefore, there is nothing you can do in and of yourself to initiate covenant with the Father but sincerely trust in the blood and death and resurrection of Messiah Jesus as atonement for your sin, not law-keeping, not water baptism, not philanthropy, not being a good person, not Moses, not Torah, not a Church, but simple and abiding faith in Jesus as the One who died for you. The “fruit” produced through you by the indwelling Holy Spirit during life-long sanctification validates your confession of faith as authentic.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit. Galatians 5 (ESV)

Water Baptism does NOT supplement the sole-sufficiency of Jesus to save by faith, alone!

Water Baptism does NOT save the soul from death in Hell as water is NOT an element of salvation as water does NOT atone for sin nor does water supplement the sole-sufficiency of Jesus to save by faith, alone!

I’m telling you that water won’t save you. I’m telling you that the only Way to initiate covenant with the Father is by sincere faith in the Son, Jesus Christ, believing that Jesus died to pay your sin-debt for you at Golgotha…that the blood of Jesus atones for sin, NOT water.

Baptism is an “act” of obedience, a work, that “follows” confession, salvation by faith. You can bathe hourly for the rest of your life….attend Church and enter baptismal waters or be sprinkled…but if Jesus is not your Messiah by faith, you’ll perish clean in body but you’ll also perish corrupt in soul/spirit and die in Hell in your sin.

Don’t turn water baptism into a “works” heresy,

Baptism is an act of obedience that every Christian should pursue subsequent salvation but anyone who seeks water baptism to be saved or as an element of salvation commits heresy as they have denied the sole-sufficiency of Messiah to save by faith through His blood atonement; essentially-tragically-in spiritual arrogance or ignorance, those who advocate water baptism as an element of salvation are combining works with faith and this is eternal error.

It is the one who BELIEVES in Jesus as Messiah that is saved. Water baptism that “follows” salvation simply testifies to a lost and perishing World of what has already transpired within the heart of the redeemed by grace through faith.